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Thanks for that Amos... Sound like the local surfers were getting carried away as usual. They also have to remember that the primary
reason for putting a reef there in the first place would be for coastal protection. The 'improved' wave would just be a bonus of this
particular coastal protection scheme.
Al.
P.S. If you speak to Kerry, can I have a right-hander with a nice easy take off that then steepens up providing a nice little barrel,
before backing off a little to allow for some nice cutbacks!!
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UK Artificial Reef Scene
Just found this articleby Alex Maeger which gives a review of the current UK artificial reef scene: (its quite long, but gives some
good background info)
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The UK Artificial Reef Scene
The topic of artificial reefs can be broken down into three main areas: 1, coastal defence; 2, biological enhancement; and 3,
recreational enhancement.
1, there are presently no reefs, or submerged breakwaters as they are also known, being used as forms of coastal defence along
the coastline of the UK. The closest we have to reefs in the UK are water piercing rubble-mound breakwaters that are submerged only at
spring high water but these are far from being true reefs.
Water piercing breakwaters have been the preferred form of offshore defence by companies whom have tendered for work in the UK until
now. There are several examples of breakwaters being used at present with varying degrees of success. An oceanographer from one of the
major UK coastal engineering consultant said, when asked to comment on the issue of submerged breakwaters, ?¨we need proof that they
work as a form of coastal defence from someone other than the only company in the world that design them?Æ. At present ASR Ltd. (ASR),
of New Zealand, are the world leaders in the market of multifunctional artificial reefs. The feeling conveyed by this employee was that
they, as a company, would like to design reefs but unfortunately they do not have enough information to do so.
2, a better-recognized scene has been established for reefs being used for biological enhancement. Such reefs are easier to
design because they are usually located in water with less wave-induced forces. They are placed to encourage marine life in both volume
and diversity. A leading figure in this field is Dr Antony Jensen who is a lecturer at the Southampton Oceanography Centre and is also
the coordinator of European Artificial Reef Research Network (EARRN). Dr Jensen, and an associate, has pioneered the use of waste
materials for the construction of artificial reefs for biological enhancement. There have been two such reefs constructed in Poole
Harbour, England, one made from tyres and the other made from concrete with a pulverised fuel ash additive. These reefs have been
monitored over a period of time to check whether any toxins have leached in to the water and are showing encouraging results.
The Scottish Association for Marine Science (SAMS) has established another project in Lock Linnhe, Scotland. This development consists
of six or more different clusters of concrete blocks and is being used to research many different aspects of biological enhancement.
The latest progress report from this project indicates that, although the water is cold and murky, the reef is showing promising signs
of biological enhancement.
Reef Balls are a very popular method of encouraging marine biology in other countries with many examples of their success in Florida,
USA, and the Caribbean. Reef Balls have also been used in the UK but in numbers far less than those used in the USA. There is a project
where some reef balls have been installed in a London Canal and also in an aquarium somewhere in England. Dr Jensen has also done some
tests on reef balls but this is about the sum total of work done on reef balls. There is a report that some rouge reef balls have been
deployed without permission at a location in Scotland but this story cannot be verified.
There is also a proposal that decommissioned oil rigs in the North Sea be used to generate an artificial habitat for marine wildlife.
This technique has been used successfully in the USA to both enhance marine life and create a diving amenity. There are, however, a few
problems with implementing the idea in the UK: a, fishermen have been promised they can fish the rigs once they are decommissioned; and
b, the North Sea does not have a great recreational appeal to divers and hence any project would be strictly limited to biological
enhancement.
3, the artificial surfing reef scene in the UK has been led by the crusader David Weight. The idea of manufacturing reefs for
surfing purposes came to him after he realised that the Dorset coastline would be a perfect setting to use reefs for coastal defence;
not only are long stretches of beach littered with groynes but there is also a small tidal range. Both these factors lend themselves
perfectly to reefs.
David first put pen to paper in 1993 in response to a television programme that highlighted the problem faced when disposing of tyres.
Although there was no positive response from this lead it turned out to be the first step on a path that has led the UK into a position
where there are now plans for two artificial surfing reefs.
David then decided to write to the Bournemouth Council engineers since Bournemouth is probably the best place for a reef to be built in
Dorset. He put forward a proposal for a reef made of tyres that would be designed to produce surfing waves. This, again, came to a dead
end but the debate that it stimulated was useful. It became apparent that the engineers did not like reefs, because they were not a
proven form of coastal defence, and that they did not like tyres, because of the threat that they posed to the marine environment. It
just so happened that at this time Dr Jensen was starting his research into tyre reefs.
After receiving a couple more discouraging letters David decided to drop the activist stance and research the subject for his own
personal interest. It was apparent at this time that none of the leading coastal engineers in the UK were interested in surfing and
hence no research was being done in the UK on the subject. Finally, in 1997, the 1st International Surfing Reef Symposium was held in
Sydney and David realised that there were other people in the world that shared the same interest. David politely asked his employers,
Currie & Brown (C&B), an international company of construction consultants, to purchase the proceedings of this conference and
he started to liase with colleagues to initiate a multifunctional artificial reef scheme. Proposals were drawn up for various projects
around the south of England and some research was conducted through a student at MSc level. Whilst the proceedings of the conference
had broadened the knowledge base of those working at C&B there was still a lot of research that needed to be done. David realised
this need for research and approached some of the larger companies and organisations in the country. Unfortunately no one in the UK
wanted to fund any such research and, with no research, there was no chance of any progress. With neither the government or any major
companies in the UK interested in artificial reefs C&B had to pull out as well.
In the mean time Professor Kerry Black, from The University of Waikato, New Zealand, had the facilities and resources necessary to do
the much-needed research and he managed to turn artificial surfing reefs into a viable product. This intensive period of research,
known as the Artificial Reefs Program, furnished Professor Black with a portfolio of papers that established how to design an
artificial reef for both surfing and coastal defence purposes. Professor Black then collaborated with some of his highly qualified
colleagues, whom are also experienced surfers, to form the company called ASR Limited.
David, back in the UK, was in the familiar situation where his interest in artificial reefs had become a personal crusade. He had now
developed proposals for several sites around the UK with one of them being at Newquay. He submitted the proposal to Newquay Council but
unfortunately it was refused on the grounds that the technologically was unsubstantiated. Fortunately though, in the previous round of
developments with C&B, David had gained a contact with the government??s regional engineer for the south west of England. This
engineer, who was environmentally aware, saw some of the benefits that artificial reefs could offer to the environment and to the
community. He suggested that David put a proposal forward for a reef at Bournemouth using ASR as the consulting engineers. A proposal
was drawn up, ASR showed interest, and a presentation was arranged to put the idea forward to the Bournemouth Councillors. The response
to the presentation was mixed: the people from leisure and tourism liked it; the local residents did not like the idea of attracting
surfers to the area; and the council engineer did not want to use reefs as a form of coastal defence. On leaving the meeting it was
suggested that an external report be commissioned to determine what effect a reef would have on the coastline in order to determine
whether or not a reef would be a good form of coastal defence. This report was returned with a neutral response that left an open
opportunity for ASR to prove that the reef would have no detrimental effect on the coastline. The residents, given time, also come
around to the idea of having a reef and so, with leisure/tourism, the local residents and the engineer satisfied, everything was set to
go ahead. With the feasibility study complete, and the funding sorted, it is now just a matter for the Council to give the final
instruction so that the last stages of the project can begin. ASR, in the meantime, has formed an alliance with C&B where ASR deals
with the design side of the scheme and C&B look after the construction side.
Meanwhile, in Newquay, David??s brother, Anthony, was writing proposals of his own. After watching David struggle with his reef
campaign Anthony finally found an opportunity to help him. Anthony, who is also a keen surfer, was lucky enough to be given the post of
Sustainable Development Officer for Cornwall County Council. It was then, with sustainability in mind, that he realised how
environmentally friendly artificial reefs are and hence he got writing to some of the local councillors. The councillors showed an
interest and so a series of meetings were arranged with interest growing all the time. The scheme then became considerably more viable
when Gul International put some money forward to help fund a feasibility study. This in turn spurred other local companies and councils
to contribute money and the project started to snowball. The Newquay Artificial Reef Company was formed to handle the money and a brief
was drawn up to explain that the council wanted. In the words of the council ?¨the project must be exciting, must create more and
better surf, and must not be a financial risk?Æ. A feasibility study has been commissioned, conducted by ASR in association with
C&B, and the results look promising. The report addressed 3 main issues: a, can good surfing waves be produced; b, will there be
any environmental problems; and c, can the reef be multifunctional. Through consultation a site was chosen that suited both the
fisherman and the surfers. The site has good swell, shelter from the wind and enough access for boats to get past. The next steps for
the Newquay reef are: a, cost estimate; b, talking to funding bodies; c, public consultation; d, geotechnical assessment; e,
environmental assessment; and f, final design.
At present Bournemouth and Newquay are muscling for first place with both looking for the prestige of being the first artificial
surfing reef in the UK. This healthy competition is backed by the fact that they are both looking like promising projects.
The increase in awareness of artificial reefs has given lead to other proposals and there is now talk of reefs at Borth, in Wales, and
at Scarborough and Lime Regis in England.
Conclusion
The artificial reef scene in the UK has developed from nothing over the last 15 years and is only 40 or so years old on the global
scene. Artificial reefs are still very young, and hence there is a lot of scepticism about them, but there is the driving force that is
created by the air of innovation and excitement that surrounds them. It is true that more research needs to be done by independent
bodies to open up this very restricted market but it is also true that there are some large consultants in this country that have the
knowledge and the power to start using reefs as a form of coastal defence. Experience gained from surfing reefs constructed around the
world show that the worst mistake makes made to date were the failure to account for settlement and an under-estimate in the size of
reef required to have an effect on the waves. It is worth remembering that so many of today??s coastal defence schemes fail in ways so
much more catastrophic than this so reefs are relatively low in risk even though they are still relatively young.
Artificial reefs are a highly sustainable form of coastal defence. They mimic natural land forms and work in harmony with natural
processes to create a form of coastal defence that is not only aesthetically more pleasing but can also provide an amenity for surfers.
Now that the UK is backing artificial surfing reefs it is not only pledging its support to surfers but also support to the environment
as a whole.
Al.
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Looks like the local councillors are in favour of the artificial rrefs now which is good. This is an article from this weeks (April
3rd) Cambrian News:
quote: Artificial Reef for Borth?
Residents hope council chiefs will opt for submerged reef and not new rock groynes.Story: Patrick O'Brien
A SUBMERGED artificial reef off Borth would save the area's sandy beaches from being scarred by over 30 new rock groynes, a detailed
study of protection is likely to show.
The £1 million structure, made from large geotextile bags filled with sand, would break the power of offshore waves; protecting
hundreds of houses at Borth at risk of being flooded by the sea, but would be much cheaper than groynes, the study is expected to
say.
In addition, the reef could provide a major boost to tourism by being 'tailored' to produce ideal conditions for surfers and other
watersports enthusiasts, while creating new habitats for fish and other marine life.
The £55,000 investigation has been commissioned by Ceredigion council and is due. to be completed by early autumn.
It is being carried out by a New Zealand firm which pioneered the revolutionary method of coastal protection and has installed reefs
in Australia and New Zealand, and is planning schemes for Newquay in' Cornwall and Bournemouth. Tourism interests in the Cornish resort
believe the, development could make the town Europe's foremost surfing centre.
Many exisiting wooden groynes at Borth have rotted and the risk of tidal or river flooding is regarded by, the Environment Agency as,
so serious that it has been opposing nearly all new buiIding development in the town. Looks like we were lucky then
(Al)
Ceredigion council's head of engineering, Garfield Williams, told the Cambrian News: "The coastal defences of Borth are fast
approaching the end of their effective life, and we asked our Cardiff consultants, Posford Haskoning, to look at coast-protection
options along the frontage.
"They recommended recharging the shingle bank in front of Borth village and controlling this through the use of rock structures, and
recharging the shingle bank along the golf course frontage and controlling a and strengthening this with the re-establishment of the
breastwork and construction of rock groynes.
"But, apart from addressing coast-protection and flooding issues, we also want to enhance the amenity and recreational value of the
beach and village, which is why we are now looking at a scheme which combines coast-protection and the potential of a surfing reef."
Strong backing for an artificial reef which protects Borth, while potentiallly making the town a highly profitable centre for surfing
and other watersports emerged at a public meeting at which residents were asked for ideas on the town??s future.
New Zealand marine consultant Kerry Black, who heads the company working on the Borth study, explained at a later public meeting how
the individually- designed reefs iwere constructed offshore, and made rock emplacements along the shoreline unnecessary. He said this
week: "The reefs unify coast-protection and amenity benefits into a single structure placed offshore. "The bags are between 160 and 300
tonnes, typically 20 metres long and up to five metres in diameter, and are predicted to be stable in the eight to 10-metre waves that
occur during cyclones." The sunken bags had been found to attract small fish within hours of being put in position and within two weeks
became overgrown with marine organisms and plants. The investigation by his company, ASR, will report on a single reef at the
southern end of Borth, although several others would be needed to protect the whole of the coastline north to Ynyslas. Council
consultants Posford's proposals would see a dozen rock structures and groynes constructed along the Borth town frontage over a 10-year
period, at a cost of about £3 million.
At the southern end of Borth the Posford option would see five, large v-shaped rock structures constructed lengthways along the beach,
as well as a rock groyne, while at the northern end of the seafront there would be five rock groynes and another rock structure.
Together,' they would radically alter the beach and could be badly received by tourists.
The council will have to decide whether to opt for the Posford strategy, for one or more reefs, or for a combination of the two. ASR,
who are working with Posford, say offshore reefs will not stop all beach erosion, and shingle banks may need to have small stones added
to them.
Garfield Williams' said: "Objectives of this 'new study include to determine the best position of, and the optimum size for, the reef,
to integrate the surfing reef with other proposed coastal works, and to consider the possibility of reducing or removing the need for
some of the proposed coast-protection structures."
For surfers, windsurfers and bodyboarders, one or more reefs would be a godsend because of the high-quality waves which they can be
designed to produce.
But Borth Surf Club secretary Richard Huxley sees the benefits rippling out into the local economy.
He says: "A reef or reefs could bring people flocking to Borth to enjoy these increasingly popular water-based activities. The
economic benefits for the area could be huge."
"A reef would be a bolt-on extra to sea-defence for no extra cost. Rock would spoil the beach and would surely not be welcomed by
tourists."
Borth county councillor Ray Quant said: "An artificial reef, while contributing towards coastal defence, would also be very good for
the local economy."
Who knows...we could get it here after all.
Al.
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Oh, and heres the photo of a surfer at Borth that went with the article.
Al.
justal has attached this image:
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Just to let you all know that there is a meting about the future of Borth and its coastal defences this week. The results of the reef
feasibility study should be announced, and all other interested parties from the other proposed schemes should be present.
its being held in the Borth Community Hall on Friday 31st Oct. at 6.15pm.
If you have any views about the proposals, then be there at make them known.
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The public meeting was well attended last night, and the feasibility study that ASR have been carrying out is pretty much finished.
As usual, both ASR and especially Posfords were a little vague when it came to the actual costs, but I guess thats not really our
concern. As far as the feasibility study results go, the reef would look and be positioned pretty much as I expected... Basically from
above it would look like a lopsided 'V' shape, witht he pointy bit facing out to sea. The longer arm would be to the north pointing
towards the beach at an angle of about 60¬?, and a shorter arm to the south pointing towards the beach at about 50¬?. The lopsided
shape helps to refract the waves so that they then travel towards the beach perpendicularly which helps prevent longshore drift of the
existing pebble ridge. (At the moment the waves hit the beach at a slight angle which pushed the beach material towards the north).
If they get the go ahead, the first of these reefs would be situated about 500-600m north of the cliff. And would be visible above the
water for about 14% of the time (at low tides)
The study seems to suggest that the reefs would help to stabilise the pebble ridge (which is Borths main coastal defence), and would
widen the beach behind the reef, but wouldn't have any effect on 'overtopping', so there would still be flooding once every now and
then when a big storm coincides with a high tide. One of the main reasons for this is that at high tides, the reef is submerged under
several metres of water and is therefore having little effect. Raising the height of the reef (which would be an option) could help a
little with this, but would mean that the reef itself would be emergent and therefore visible for more of the time.
It seems as though the rock structures proposed by Posfords (the details of which are still a little fuzzy) would similarly not prevent
overtopping. This means that whichever scheme they opt for, there will still be a need to increase or modify the sea wall at the top of
the beach to stop overtopping and prevent flooding in Borth. It may not be necessary to increase its height, if adjustments can eb made
to help the wall reflect the waves back out to sea.
Obviously no decisions have been made yet.
I was a little disappointed that Kerry Black went on about surfing and the benefits the reefs would have for the surf so much. In my
opinion, and I'm sure the opinion of the actual decision makers and the bodies providing money for the Coastal Management Scheme, the
primary concern has to be coastal protection and the prevention of flooding. Other important concerns are obviously the cost, the
environmental and social-economic impacts. Improvement of the surfing in Borth is of very low priority. I wouldn't complain if the
waves improved, and I'd hate it if the waves were ruined altogether by an alternative scheme, but trying to improve them is of minor
importance. I think if Kerry Black had based his presentation on coastal protection, and not mentioned surfing until the very end when
he tagged it on as an aditional spin-off benefit of the reefs, then the reef proposal would have been better accepted by all of the
non-surfers in the room.... As it was, as I was leaving I heard a few of the non-surfers saying things along the lines of:
'well, theres only one thing for it... we'll have to take up surfing'
which suggested to me that their overview of the scheme was that it was for the improvement of surfing in Borth rather than the
protection of the village.
Theres still more work to be done and I think its up to the various compaines involved to come up with a collaborative scheme that
addresses all of the problems. At the moment there is no full solution, just a series of possibilites, each of which help coastal
protection in one way, but not as a complete solution.
We'll have to wait and see.
It would also be nice to see a similar presentation given by Posfords, so that some of the detials of the Rock Structures could be
better understood.
Does anyone else have any views on last nights meeting??
Al.
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This article is on teh BBC Wales website about the reef
BBC News Website
I think they could do the project some favours if they didn't keep promoting the improved surfing conditions and concentrated more on
the coastal protection aspect!
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THANX
U guys, well I couldnt have thanked you more enough!!!
this is the exact topic im doin 4 AS coursework in geog!!!!! hehe
I went up2 borth sunday, chatted to a few locals filled in sum Questionairres and chatted to a few students and surfers from Aber.
Ive never really seen surfing as an appealing sport to me, but now, well then... looks mighty fun!!!
Yeah, so this cwrk is just to see if the area needs an updated coastal protection scheme.
the results of the Q were quite interestin, it was chuckin it down so i couldnt really get many filled in. Most people are for the reef
and a minority would like the harbour idea.
if there are any locals who i talked 2, thanks alot, ur help was extreeeeeemly helpful!
i have only just began this cwrk, and basically each day has a new discovery,
sunday's was surfing!
If its not too much trouble could i have a few contact details like Richard Huxley or sampson guy, the fisherman?
And feel free to share surfer info 4 beginners!hehe
cheers.
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If you need some more questionares answerd im sure Al won't mind if you post one on here for us to fill out, quite a few of us have
been to Borth more than once.
Befs
http://brogboroughlake.windsurf.me.uk/
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Yeah...stick the questionnaire up here and we'll all fill it your for you.
I'll u2u Richard Huxleys number to you if you like as well... Although it has to be said that many of the locals/surfers don't
necessarily agree with everything he has to say (some don't agree with ANYTHING he has to say come to think about it!!)
Hi Rich if you're reading this!!!
Al
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yep, ok ta 4 ur help ppl.
i havent really had a chance 2 look over this web site props yet, so bare with me folks.
i cant believe how much info there is out there on the web on borths reef!
nah ive been up2 borth thousands of times but anyways i think another trip up2 borth is in plannin' might see sum of u guys there soon.
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So Lara, do you know what the latest news on the reef is??
Are they going ahead with it, has any decision been made?
Did you actually go surfing on Sunday, or just make a decision to give it a go??
Firebird.
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nope, i didnt surf.
im just kinda interested, i wouldnt mind giving it a go. i watched em a 4 a while from the top by car park. ive bin too chicken 2 try
it b4 but now i reckon soon as holz are up i might actually see what its like.hehe. . .
no ive contacted the E.A (environ agency) but their busy up in N.wales with the floods at the mo.
ive got a feeling they r goin 2 go ahead with it, all arrows are pointing in its direction, so far in my op, i cant see any reason why
not, apart from the fishin side. but that problem could easily be sorted.
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Hi Lara...
I've sent you a u2u.... Along with my current thoughts on the 'schemes'. I don't know if they'll help you in your project, but they'll
certainly give you something to think about.
To add to it, none of the current schemes will actually provide a complete coastal protection solution for Borth. The people suggesting
the schemes have pointed this out themselves, as really the two main schemes only have the effect of protecting / maintaining the
pebble ridge. The pebble ridge is Borths main sea defence , so this is an essential first step, but in big storms it is still breached
/ overtopped which results in the flooding of Borth. It would seem to me that in addition to the pertoection of the pebble ridge,
solutions to the overtopping need to be found (improved sea wall etc.?).
At the end of the day its no good building the ultimate eco-friendly unobtrusive, economy improving, super surf generating sheme if it
doesn't work as a coastal defence. I think that some people sometimes get so involved in trying to keep everyone happy and then loose
sight of the primary objectives.
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Yeah 1st priority would be maintaining and holding sand for the beach and pebbles for the ridge. The groynes seem to do this pretty
well but there old and knackered now. So...new groynes - Cost loads, take ages to build, scar the beach, starve areas downcoast of
material leading to increased erosion of cliff or ynslas(?)
Or,... Artificial reef - Costs less, looks prettier, decreases storm energy at beach+ sustains the pebbles/sand that are already there.
But does it also decrease supply of material to the beach? Hmm.
Either way I vote for the reef. Sounds loads more exciting.
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he he, looks like im gna hav 2 post that questionnaire soon. . . .
[Edited on 10-2-2004 by Lara]
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Borth Surf Reef
Hi, I've been away for a month and understand through local rumours, that there has been some progress on the approval for the reef.
Can you let me know please.
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soz got no ideas hout,
but, thanks to help form variuos people, i scored a B in my coursework on whether an artificial reef should be constructed in Borth,
and a grade B overall in my final AS result!!
its me again . . .
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the person who helped i.e. me using a quote frm them i need to say thanks, richard huxley, ta, i decided to just say that you were in
favour of the idea. ta! may see u all nxt yr in aber,
its me again . . .
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Reef
Does anyone have any idea what the latest news on the proposed reef at Borth is?
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