badexcuseforasailor
|
| posted on 28-3-2004 at 17:02 |
|
|
Kite
Its Rob's fault!
Had a go on Robs kite today, great fun I want one! 
Want a kite to use when its not windy enough for windsurfing
Would maybe like to get a board or buggy
at later date.
What should I get ?
http://brogboroughlake.windsurf.me.uk/
|
|
|
adam
|
| posted on 28-3-2004 at 17:18 |
|
|
You're welcome to come down to where I go kiting and have a try with a load of different kites we have between us to see which you
prefer and can give you some advice 
Its between Sherington and Newport Pagnell (Kite Planet field), we're out most weekends from about 12-1pm and nice evenings after work
especially now we have more light. Website here:
http://www.mkkiteflyers.co.uk
Probably the only time you'll see me as I rarely go windsurfing to Brog these days as I'm always out kiting!
Even today only about 5-10 mph there were a load of us out and even though it wasn't that exciting was a nice afternoon. Friend got
32mph in his buggy with the assist of the hill flying a 7.5m race kite 
I guess for a first kite to use in light winds should go for between a 4 and 5m lots of choice these days but I still think you can't
go wrong with a Flexifoil Blade as an allrounder.
|
|
|
rob
A Force-of-Nature **  
Member #: 550 Posts 375
Registered: 19-2-2004 Location: aber Member Is Offline Mood: tired!
|
| posted on 29-3-2004 at 08:23 |
|
|
somebody else caught the bug i'm seriously looking to buy a big kite
now for after easter, after this weekends frankly dire performance!!
|
|
|
justal
|
| posted on 29-3-2004 at 16:45 |
|
|
Hehehe.... I knew you succumb in the end BEFS!!! 
The beauty of kiting as a lightwind alternative to windsurfing is that a kite and mountain board don't actually take up too much room
in your car so you can always thake them with you 'just in case'
As Adam says, look out for a 4-5m foil. I was using a 4.9m Blade I on Sunday and there was plenty of power in that to pull me along
nicely on the mountain board... Once you get into it you may want something even bigger for really lightwind days, and then once the
wind gets up to 15 knots and the 4-5m foil becomes a handful you can go windsurfing.
Al.
URL: Pixelwave Design - Website Design Wales
Shop: Website Templates
Personal Weblog: A Simple Life of Luxury in West Wales
|
|
|
badexcuseforasailor
|
| posted on 29-3-2004 at 20:02 |
|
|
:O at the price of blades found this kite on the net anyone had any experiance with of it? says it similar to blade but nearly
£140 cheaper
Eolo radsail pro 5.0m Power Kite
New from Radsails is a kite completely redesigned by Andy Preston. It features a dyneema bridle (normally found on more expensive
kites), with fully reinforced bridle points and gauze on the leading edge.
Basically these are a similar design to a Blade, but made elsewhere and at a bargain price. Excellent choice for boarding or buggy
use.
Like the other Radsail Pro power kites, the 5m has a great technical design allowing it to fly upwind better than many other kites,
great for landboarding and buggying. There's plenty of power for getting air, this is a kite for intermediate to experienced flyers!
http://brogboroughlake.windsurf.me.uk/
|
|
|
justal
|
| posted on 29-3-2004 at 21:29 |
|
|
I've never flown the Radsail, but it would probably be OK for you.. The Peel that you flew at the weekend is quite an old (and not very
efficient) kite, so its not as though you would need a top performance kite anyway...
How much was the Radsail?? From what I've just seen the 5m should be just over £200 brand new... You should be able to get a 2nd
hand Blade for that amount.
A quick look around has found 4.9m Blade III's for £200 2nd hand.
Looks as thoguh people are hanging on (no pun intended!) to their Blades I's and II's though.
Al.
URL: Pixelwave Design - Website Design Wales
Shop: Website Templates
Personal Weblog: A Simple Life of Luxury in West Wales
|
|
|
justal
|
| posted on 29-3-2004 at 21:32 |
|
|
Also found a MK 1 Predator (4m) for £125 with new lines and handles...
I had a 2.8m Predator and it was a lovely kite.... This one was on the Flexifoil forums.
here:
http://www.flexifoil.com/community/forums/showthread.php?t=35582
Al.
URL: Pixelwave Design - Website Design Wales
Shop: Website Templates
Personal Weblog: A Simple Life of Luxury in West Wales
|
|
|
shem
|
| posted on 29-3-2004 at 21:37 |
|
|
Rad sail pro 5 meter is a very powerfull kite, nice to fly as well, craig at the beach house has the 4 meter. May be a little to
aggressive for even medium wind days. The HQ Beamer 5 meter that I was flying is far more "user friendly" Not as power full as a blade,
but has a bigger wind range, and brand new costs £175!!
So many to choose from.
Kite & SUP wales
Caravan decking wales
|
|
|
rob
A Force-of-Nature **
Member #: 550 Posts 375
Registered: 19-2-2004 Location: aber Member Is Offline Mood: tired!
|
| posted on 30-3-2004 at 08:38 |
|
|
if you go for the radsail, make sure you get the 'pro' version. rumour has it the standard radsail is crap - not sure what it is thats
wrong with the standard version, but i'm sure if you check the flexifoil forums you'll find something about it...
the radsail pro is supposed to be pretty good though
don't forget the mac bego 400 or 600 too... excellent light wind kites apparently.
rob
|
|
|
adam
|
| posted on 30-3-2004 at 11:24 |
|
|
Radsail Pros have been getting good reviews, we had a 4m demo to try out. It is a lot better than the standard Radsaill but didn't fly
as nicely as Blades, Bullets, Little devils or even Busters .
Had a decent amount of power I guess not much lift, the bridles are made from stupidly heavy line which adds a lot of drag to the kite,
but should mean it won't break!
HQ Beamers look good, better build quality than Busters by the look, I had a 2.5 on demo last week and it has now gone back, one of
the seams let go (2" tear) without any big crashes, may just have been a lemon though
mk1 Predator is mainly a buggy kite, not the best for static flying/jumping or boarding if thats what you want to do, mk2 and mk3
Predators were better all rounders with more lift.
Decision is yours really but I do advise having a go on a few before deciding only so much you can tell from the blurb!
I recently sold my Blade I 4.9 for £150 with lines and handles which would have been perfect for you, now have a Blade III 4.9 and
its amazing, even more powerful, more lift and quicker through the air and turning! There are always used deals like that about though,
Blade I 4.9 about £150, Blade II 4m or 4.9 are generally about £180-200, Blade III can be had for about £230.
Cheaper Radsail Pro, 4m for £159:
http://www.radicalsports.co.uk/bargains.asp
Reviews:
http://www.virtualkitestore.com/eolo_radsail_pro_review.htm
Used kites:
http://www.flexifoil.com/community/forums/
As Al said the Peel you had a go on is an old design (still nice though), a modern foil of the same size will produce a lot more power,
I think a 5m peel equates to about 3.5-4m Blade or similar The first
thing to get your head round will be 4 lines, offers a lot more control though.
Generally people go for around a 4m kite first a Blade III 4.9 pulls like a Blade II 6.4 so may be a bit of a handful, always start in
light winds!
|
|
|
badexcuseforasailor
|
| posted on 30-3-2004 at 16:02 |
|
|
As shem says so many to choose from, not sure how much im going to find out by trying as I have never flown a kite with 4 line so will
probaly all feel bad at first! Im tempted by the beamer as shem says its more user friendly I think thats what I will need, found one
for 160 too.
http://brogboroughlake.windsurf.me.uk/
|
|
|
badexcuseforasailor
|
| posted on 5-4-2004 at 10:10 |
|
|
I got it wind all gusty and way to much for maiden flight out side so
unpacked in living room, looks @*+£)%£ huge 
Quick question for shem whats the best knots to have th brake lines on for starting out?
cheers
befs
http://brogboroughlake.windsurf.me.uk/
|
|
|
adam
|
| posted on 5-4-2004 at 18:57 |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by badexcuseforasailor
Quick question for shem whats the best knots to have th brake lines on for starting out?
Shem I ain't but from memory I think I set the Beamer I had on the 2nd knot down the leader from the kite (Are there 5 in total?) On
the one furthest from the kite the brakes didn't work at all. You can also fine tune by adding knots on the rope leaders on the
handles.
You want it so the brakes trail loosely but when you pull the bottom of the handles in the kite will reverse and land. If they are too
tight the kite won't take off.
Have fun!
|
|
|
badexcuseforasailor
|
| posted on 5-4-2004 at 21:33 |
|
|
ok cheers Adam probaly best to start off with too much brake and not get off the ground than to get it up in the air and not have any!
:O
Just need some suitable wind now
http://brogboroughlake.windsurf.me.uk/
|
|
|
justal
|
| posted on 6-4-2004 at 06:38 |
|
|
Looks as though the wind is calming down for the end of the week BEFS...
Before you set up the kite, make sure all four-lines are exactly the same length...Although they say they are, they might not be. If
you check it first, it could save a lot of hassle.
and then, as you say, start off with too much brake and go from there. As Adam says, its easier if you put some knots in the leaders on
the handles as you can then make adjustments there (make sure the knots are equal on both sides)... It saves you walking backwards and
forwards from the kite to make the adjustments. Just land the kite and adjust the line length at the handle end.
Have fun!!
Al.
URL: Pixelwave Design - Website Design Wales
Shop: Website Templates
Personal Weblog: A Simple Life of Luxury in West Wales
|
|
|
keiths
Member
Member #: 796 Posts 1
Registered: 2-6-2004 Member Is Offline Mood:
|
| posted on 2-6-2004 at 16:07 |
|
|
Radsail
Look on the net,
You can get a 4m Radsail Pro for £120 incl postage from the states, Now that is silly cheap no matter what people say about the
Radsail you just cannot go wrong at that price
|
|
|
Pixelwave Web Design.
justal@forces-of-nature.co.uk