petersone
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| posted on 7-7-2004 at 13:32 |
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Nice...I've been waiting for that site to get up and running.
I've had the same luck as you do. Everyone else over here in the U.S. thinks they're too flimsy. Must be jealousy...
To make your day, I've given you guys the link for a couple of pictures of wear I sponge. I know Airborne was wondering, and I kinda
gave him a bad image, but here's a few you may like. The breaks at Cape Cod are big, prolly 3-4 feet in most cases, but they break all
over the place, not really leaving for a smooth ride. Let me know how you like them.
You can visit them here: Cape Cod Pics
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Airborne
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| posted on 7-7-2004 at 16:06 |
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ooo i might go have a look at that website gallery...how did you find the Manta to ride Thodd?
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petersone
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| posted on 7-7-2004 at 19:34 |
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I have a question for anyone...if you're dropping in on a wave...do you find it easier to drop in on an angle in the direction that you
want to go in or just dropping straight in and bottom turning?
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I didn't like the manta airborne.. it felt slow and "clunky"... but saying that it was only one of their mid range boards.
To answer your question Peter... I do both depending on how the wave is behaving.... sometimes if I want lots of speed I'll drop
straight down and put a turn in , if the wave is a really clean mellow one then i'll start at an angle.
Its a hard thing to explain really.. its more of an sub-conscious action rather than an actual decision that I make.
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Peter,
I agree with Thodd; it depends on the wave and a sunconscious reaction.
I find I do the drop and bottom turn on steeper sucky waves. When waves are not so steep then its normally an angle start.
Airborne: You were right on with the offshore - on shore part. Onshore will make the waves whitecap (have the top part break out at sea
and lose energy) so the waves become smaller than they were. Offshore helps the waves barrel and make a tube (the wind slows down the
fromt face while the backface is still pushing forward). Both can destroy waves if they are too strong. I think the best waves I've
ridden have always had a light offshore wind.
On the board issue and stringers:
I remember reading that Guillerme Tamega (world champ back in 90 something) used to crease his boards on purpose. He'd put his knee to
the bottom and pull the tip until he got a crease on the bottom. He used to say he prefered a flexible board for pulling off some of
the moves.
Some people like stiff boards, some like flexible ones. If a stringer makes the board too stiff, then some people will hate them while
others will love them.
"Why should I have to WORK for everything?! It's like saying I don't deserve it! " C&H
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petersone
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thanks for your responses...that helps me quite a bit. now...onto another question..
rip tides...how do you spot them and how can you avoid them?
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Thanks for all the advice guys...now i'm really up to date. Peterson, i think those waves at Cape Cod are really good. Your lucky to
live close to such a nice break. Nice info mexican bandit cheers. I'm glad i was right about the wind.
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petersone
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| posted on 8-7-2004 at 22:12 |
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hey thanks about those breaks airborne. they're about a 4 hour drive from my home in connecticut. its like paradise though there...its
really something...
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Rip tides eh??? They can be your best friend or your worse enemy! Heres what i've learnt but if anone else wnts to add
something........
Depending on the size of the beach you will usually get 3 rip tides. 2 on both sides and 1 in the middle. THey're caused by all the
water getting washed up on the beach trying to get back out to sea. When its doing that it'll start to "groove" out the sandy sea bed
providing channels and theres your rip. The problem is the rips can change from hour to hour as the sand is shifted around under the
sea.
O.k. thats the theory...(i think its right!!) Spotting rips is can be easy... before you go in the sea take some time looking at all
the waves... you'll probably notice that there will be a place where the waves aren't breaking...this is your rip. Spotting this area
can be difficult if its a particularly messy day. Personally I try and find the rip to help me get out to the back of the line up...
kind of like a conveyor belt.
Of course once in the sea it can be a different matter as you'll become slightly disorientated with your position. I usually give
myself 2 or 3 markers. 1 on the beach on 1 to my side... say a group of surfers or a tree on the cliff face (whatever works for you)
You should then be able to judge if your getting swept in a particular direction and compensate accordingly.
But remember....never ever swim against a rip.... you'll get tierd and probably won't win. Always swim horizontal to it and after a few
kicks you'll probably find your in the clear!
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petersone
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| posted on 9-7-2004 at 12:57 |
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Thanks Thodd...I've heard about swimming horozontally, but I haven't heard about the way the waves brake with a rip tide. I think it'd
be rather hard to tell where I am because the waves are sloppy and break all over the place.
From experience here, I just look for a big sandy looking mess, but where I sponge its sandbar for about 1/2 mile out. You can check it
in this pic.
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i thing theres something as well where if the waves or sea is bobbing up and down when it comes in to the beach, this is where pressure
is and thats where your currents can be produced! Nice pic peter...wheres the waves though? And great advice Thodd. Keep the post
comming! 
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| posted on 9-7-2004 at 21:45 |
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gotta climb down a 30 ft sand dune my man...gotta work a little for those waves
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Oh! I see...now i get it! 
Well, then i take your word for it that they're good. Is that picture Cape Cod or somewhere else?
Can you see that black dot in the sky on the image? It could be a U.F.O! 
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petersone
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Yeah its good ole Cape Cod, even with the UFOs is good stuff. Thats quite the sandbar eh?
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It sure is! Is that you on your avatar peter? Here's my answer to your earlier question. I usually drop to the bottom and do a hard
bottom turn on a steeper wave, whereas if its more flat i like to just angle, slightly turing into the wave...i always find this a bit
slower though.
Does anyone know how to stop sliding out when you take off on a wave, how do you stop slowing down and end up being pushed forward
rather than along the wave? Is it something to do with the tail and rail in the wave face? Wher should these be?
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petersone
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No sorry...thats not me. I' actually a female rider. My username is just my last name followed by the first initial of my first name.
My name is Erika by the way.
My answer to your question from above about sliding out when taking off on a wave:
*If its a big wave, stay closer to the breaking point, otherwise, your velocity is going to increase when you fall down the face of the
wave causing you to slide all over the place. I would reccomend staying near the breaking point unless you plan on doing a manuver that
requires plenty of speed and a huge wave.
Hope this helped.
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That's it! Everytime i've been slow its been near the end of a wave and not as close as possible to the breaking part! Cheers for that.
And sorry for the confusion about you being a female rider and me calling you a man! Soz. 
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petersone
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| posted on 12-7-2004 at 17:47 |
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lol thats quite alright
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Airborne
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i have to say though, this is a pretty good going post topic going on here...thats unusual! You must be popular petersone.
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| posted on 12-7-2004 at 22:15 |
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I don't think popular is the term. I think we're more informative than anything
Hey if people enjoy it...keep up the posting
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