Jonny
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| posted on 11-2-2005 at 07:26 |
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Ripped 5.4 sail
I fell through my sail today which im still really pissed of about. The sail is a NP 5.4 Supersonic shear tip from about 2000 I think.
Not really a wave or freestyle sail, but a slalom race sail.
The sail has seen quite a lot of use but the rips the 4th panel down just above boom height and the panels completely shredded.
Im just wanting to know whether or not it would be worth repairing and how much it would cost to repair a complete panel back in the UK
as Ive never had to get anything repaired before.
Im going down to the local sail repaier guy on Mon to maybe get it fixed.
My alternative is to get another second hand 5.5 sail depending on how much the repair for a whole new panel would be.
any comments about previous experiences would be much appreciated.
Im trynna attach a photo but the comps not recognising my camera
Jonny
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justal
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| posted on 11-2-2005 at 07:43 |
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Probably around £50, but if you take it to the local sail repairer in NZ it could well be cheaper. I know I once needed a small
repair to one of my sails, and couldn't be bother to send it off and pay the postage to get it repaired as the total cost would then
have been around £50 for a £25 repair... I took it to the local cobblers and he repaired it for £3.50!!
And it worked fine for many years after that. I then sold it and as far as I know it is still going strong as I occassionally get an
e-mail from the guy who bought it telling me what a good time the sail is still giving him!
Sounds as though you need some more wind now so that you can use your 4.5m sail!... Welcome to the world of wave-sailing, you'll be
breaking kit all the time!
Al.
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Jonny
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| posted on 11-2-2005 at 07:55 |
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Thanks for that al but I cant afford to break any kit. It can be easily done in the waves as Ive found out for myself so ive just gotta
be really careful for the next few weeks.
Theres a 20 knot westerly forecast for tomorrow so looks like i'l be doing some flat water speed sailing on my 6.3 in the harbour. Wont
be anywhere near as much fun as today though out in the waves.
Ive been looking around for second hand 5.5 sails and there way out of my budget so think i'l just get it repaired which could mean
waiting around this place for a few days. I either want the wind to be up to 20 knots or over 25 and that would suit me.
Thanks again Al
Jonny
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justal
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| posted on 11-2-2005 at 08:06 |
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No problem.... but DON"T be careful in the waves, as that really is a recipe for disaster. As soon as you try to be gentle to your kit
and are conscious of breaking things, then its a pretty safe bet that you WILL break something!... Just go for it! 
Al.
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Wes
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| posted on 11-2-2005 at 09:27 |
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I apply that to pretty much everything - and it costs me a fortune! 
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Jonny
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| posted on 12-2-2005 at 02:42 |
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Well I went to the local sailmaker and hes gonna have it repaired by monday which should cost somewhere around $40 which is 15 quid.
Absolute bargain!
My UV joints on the verge of breaking as well at the moment so Im not gonna be able to go out again as I cant risk a UV joint breakin
on me out at sea.
It was creaking and groaning all throughout my session ive just had and the nylock rked its way of the thread almost.
Its an ART fixed UV joint. ART dont exist anymore so I gotta get a complete new mast extension along with mast base which is gonna be
expensive. I was gonna try and just convert the rigid part to a rubber joint but am unable to. 
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Jonny
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| posted on 12-2-2005 at 02:45 |
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Managed to hand my sail in today for repair so its gonna be ready for monday. Its only gonna cost me 40 bucks which is 15quid. absolute
Bargain!!
From one thing to another, my UV joints on the verge of going as it was creaking and groaning throughout today. Its an ART fixed UV
joint and the nylock nut has worked its way off the thread almost. ART dont exist anymore so im gonna hve to get a copmplete new masta
base extension etc. which is another pain in the arse.
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justal
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| posted on 12-2-2005 at 08:14 |
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I've snapped two UJ's already this year! Are you sure you will need to get a new extension and deckplate??? I always buy my UJ's
along with the deckplate as a complete unit and they come with several fittings to fit most extensions. Take your extension along to
the shop and see if they have a base/UJ with a pin that will be compatible with your extension. The ones I buy here usually cost about
£25, and although I've snapped 2 this year, they usually last for a year or s0 (and the ones I snapped were quite old).
Time for me to do some shopping soon as well:
5.7m sail
6.3m sail
430 mast
2 deckplates/ UJ's
A fin
and I could do with a 4m sail as well.!
I guess I should get myself off to work then!
Al.
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justal
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| posted on 12-2-2005 at 08:14 |
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I've snapped two UJ's already this year! Are you sure you will need to get a new extension and deckplate??? I always buy my UJ's
along with the deckplate as a complete unit and they come with several fittings to fit most extensions. Take your extension along to
the shop and see if they have a base/UJ with a pin that will be compatible with your extension. The ones I buy here usually cost about
£25, and although I've snapped 2 this year, they usually last for a year or s0 (and the ones I snapped were quite old).
Time for me to do some shopping soon as well:
5.7m sail
6.3m sail
430 mast
2 deckplates/ UJ's
A fin
and I could do with a 4m sail as well.!
I guess I should get myself off to work then!
Al.
URL: Pixelwave Design - Website Design Wales
Shop: Website Templates
Personal Weblog: A Simple Life of Luxury in West Wales
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Jonny
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| posted on 14-2-2005 at 23:32 |
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My sail was done for 9AM yesterday. He only charged $35 which is 13 quid and the repairs as good as new. You wouldn't even know its
been repaired without close examination. I still cant beleive he charged so little.
Hey got my UV joint replaced. Went to a windsurfing shop in Wellington and one in Christchurch a few weeks ago and they said I'd have
to get a complete new mast extension and base etc. as it wasnt compatible with any other system.
I luckily got to know one of the local guys out in Tauranga who works in the local surf/windsurfing shop who I sailed with on Friday
and he said he should be able to change it to a rubber UV joint. Eventually after a lot of messing around with lenghts of threads etc,
its been converted to a rubber joint and ive got 2 nylock nuts holding the base to the rubber joint, one of the nuts is there to lock
the other nut. There both also sealed together with loctite so its not gonna come apart on me. Wasnt really designed for a conversion
but we somehow managed to make it work.
From one problem to another, ive now gotta get my surf board repaired. It was absolutely immaculate before yesterdays little accident,
there were no pressure dings and not even a little scratch on it. 
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