kelvin
A Force-of-Nature **  
Member #: 148 Posts 356
Registered: 22-2-2003 Location: s.wales Member Is Offline Mood: waiting 4 next blow
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| posted on 7-10-2004 at 14:44 |
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I,m back
well p.c problem over so back on line , winds been good this way even though me diary entries are missing heres a tatse of some of the
action from Tues with " El Doc " giving it some air time .
kelvin has attached this image:
Kel www.winsurfing.co.uk
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justal
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| posted on 7-10-2004 at 18:16 |
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Nice..... Wish we had an official photographer here!
I'd do it myself, but I'd rather be on the water being photogrpahed!
Al.
URL: Pixelwave Design - Website Design Wales
Shop: Website Templates
Personal Weblog: A Simple Life of Luxury in West Wales
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RobD
Grommet
Member #: 825 Posts 7
Registered: 17-6-2004 Location: Shrewsbury Member Is Offline Mood:
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| posted on 25-10-2004 at 21:35 |
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Photographer - can I help?
Hi Kelvin & Al,
It's me, Rob - Tim (Bucski)'s brother-in-law.
You might remember me photographing some of you guys at Borth in the Summer?...
Some pics
I'm a freelance photographer (amongst other things) with an ever-increasing interest in watersports and would love to spend some more
time photographing you guys. Unfortunately I don't have any spare time without turning down other work - so how you would you feel
about choosing a day or an afternoon when a fair few of you would be present who'd be prepared to pay for me to attend and photograph
you all in action?
I reckon I'd need about £200 to cover my time [1] & costs - so the more people who turn up the less each of you would have to
pay.
You'd get a CD with just your photos - all high-quality digital images ideal for reprinting etc. (I can provide prints at extra
cost)
I have about 3Gb of storage cards which should mean I could take about 1000 full-size photos - so if there were 10 of you you'd get
about 100 photos each (for just £20.00 !![2])
I use professional Canon digital SLRs & lenses and, as you'll see from some of these very
recent shots of Tim & Derek I don't mind getting up-close & personal - not to mention WET! (I was nearly waist-deep and
shooting back at the beach)
Please let me know if there's any interest in this idea - either here on the forum or using my email address -
rob@robdunsford.com
Cheers
Rob
www.robdunsford.com
[1] Based on 2-3 hours shooting time + 2-3 hours post-processing (on the PC!) + travelling to/from Shrewsbury/Borth
[2] My normal customers wouldn't even get 4 prints for that price!!
[Edited on 25-10-2004 by RobD]
[Edited on 25-10-2004 by RobD]
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justal
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| posted on 26-10-2004 at 05:59 |
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Good idea, but I can't afford it! 
I spend far too much time and money working working on this site as it is, so can't go paying for photos to put on it!... Reckon I
should at least get a freebie in payment for the advert?
Note to myself.... Maybe I should start doing photography for a living... normal price of £200 for four prints! I could cope with
that! I must start charging people more for the things I do. I've built, hosted and done all the photography/design and copy-writing
for a website for £200 before now... At least a weeks work, plus travelling to do the photography. I'm just too cheap! 
URL: Pixelwave Design - Website Design Wales
Shop: Website Templates
Personal Weblog: A Simple Life of Luxury in West Wales
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RobD
Grommet
Member #: 825 Posts 7
Registered: 17-6-2004 Location: Shrewsbury Member Is Offline Mood:
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| posted on 26-10-2004 at 08:29 |
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Hi Al
Yes - you're definitely too cheap mate.
Please don't consider my post as an 'advert' .. I responded to what appeared to be a direct wish from you - "I wish we had an official
photographer".
I think you've misread my post - when I said "My normal customers wouldn't even get 4 prints for that price" it was for £20 not
£200 (i.e. £200 split between 10 would be £20 each - for which you'd get at least 100 shots - not 4) - and my total charge
would be £200 - regardless of how many kitesurfers wanted to be photographed. And my charges aren't bad at all - you'd be hard
pushed to get a photographer out of bed for £200 let alone trekking all the way over to deepest darkest Borth to get his kit
splashed with salty, sandy sea-water.
I know how hard you work on this great site and how undervalued web-designers (and photographers) are generally - so of course I'd be
more than happy to give you your photos F.O.C. Al. (In fact it was already a given - I just wouldn't have broadcast it here)
I'll even reduce the overall cost so that the other kite-surfers who attend don't end up having to pay for your share.
Cheers
Rob
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justal
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| posted on 26-10-2004 at 13:07 |
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I Didn't mean to sound as though I as having a go at you or your prices Rob.... And was only being sarcastic as far as the 'advert' was
concerned. I'm just feeling hard done by and skint at the moment so was talking to myself really saying I need to charge more!.. Still,
got the contract to build an online shop site for someone last night so thats another £250 in the bank!!
As far as a photo session goes. it will be difficult arranging an afternoon when everyone can be around on the beach and the wind shows
up as well, so getting enough people to chip in for a photo session may be a problem... Worth a try though... especially as I'll get a
freebie out of it, and you get a day at the beach!
Al.
URL: Pixelwave Design - Website Design Wales
Shop: Website Templates
Personal Weblog: A Simple Life of Luxury in West Wales
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kelvin
A Force-of-Nature **
Member #: 148 Posts 356
Registered: 22-2-2003 Location: s.wales Member Is Offline Mood: waiting 4 next blow
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| posted on 27-10-2004 at 16:05 |
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good idea ,but as always getting money out of the guys is like getting blood from a stone ,
most of me pics come from the unoffical photo guys , which is just any bugger with a digi cam , although one or two use pro gear nikon
and huge lenses , best of all its free !
Kel www.winsurfing.co.uk
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mNeil
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| posted on 5-11-2004 at 22:46 |
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great photo of a great board MAD EEL shame tim lost it ,but never fear he will have a new one on saturday!
A KITE IS FOR LIFE!! THAT IS IF ITS A YARGA.
founder of storm'n Normans van club!
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justal@forces-of-nature.co.uk