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mNeil - 22-5-2006 at 20:42

Spoker had a great idea of a trip with all the inflatable canoes and of course any other real flotsome, down from the bridge at Mac on an outgoing tide. should be fun make a decent trip,,,,,,what say ye?

nick-r - 22-5-2006 at 20:50

nice idea..deffinately up for a go at that

[Edited on 22-5-2006 by nick-r]

justal - 23-5-2006 at 06:04

Check out who owns the land etc. before you do so, as I have a feeling you aren't allowed on a stretch of that water for some reason... I've paddled up from Borth to Derwenlas and back which is where the tidal influence ends. As far as I know you are allowed on tidal waters, athough I know of people who have been shouted at as they passed under the railway bridge by Dovey Junction for some reason...

You could of course all go in camo gear at night just to add to the excitement!

Al.

shem - 23-5-2006 at 07:28

Canoeing in the river Dyfi, (from Mach), is illegal. Due to the fisheries commision. Sorry to put a damper on the plan. There can also be some really nasty bits of water at stages, that youd have to be really carefull passing. Id say its a nono though.

justal - 23-5-2006 at 12:25

Better to simply paddle up the estuary as far as you can get, with a stop in Aberdovey for a pint or two on the way back... I can get from the Golf Course Car Park in Borth to the pub in Aberdovey in around 10 minutes on my surf ski on a calm day!!

Al.

mNeil - 23-5-2006 at 12:32

a re-think is in order then i fear; how far up are we allowed to put in the ships then?

thehill - 23-5-2006 at 13:25

is that unusual that they can restrict your access to the river, i would have thought you could go anywhere you like?
How would you be supposed to find this out, is it signed along the river?

justal - 23-5-2006 at 13:50

Derwenlas is the furthest up you are allowed to go as far as I know.... Maybe the best place to get in would be Glandyfi though. Although you then have to get back, better to get in at Ynyslas paddle up with the tide and then have a picnic at Glandyfi while the tide turns and paddle back down on the outgoing tide... It is a nice little trip.

Al.

rob - 23-5-2006 at 16:44

you could always get in the river ystwyth at the industrial estate right down to the sewage pipe in the harbour, beautiful trip in uncontaminated waters! :S

shem - 23-5-2006 at 18:08

Yes its signed along the river and at Bridges. Theres a cut off point somewhere around derwen las, possibly glandyfi railway station?!

Spooker - 23-5-2006 at 19:18

Even from Derwenlas it's over 8 miles to Ynyslas, thats a good 1/2 day's messing about, definitely a worthwhile adventure on a windless day.
Tho I'm all for the camouflage and moonlite manouvers

nick-r - 23-5-2006 at 19:22

maybe a trip up the estuary from the carpark following the tide as al suggested might be a good idea.

are inflatable dolls banned too or is it just canoes....
not that i've got one...

[Edited on 23-5-2006 by nick-r]

mNeil - 24-5-2006 at 07:08

well mines in the van already Nick.................oh and so is the canoe! fingers crossed for a trip next week.

dunk - 24-5-2006 at 21:18

Un pack Racheal and get out the puncture repair kit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nick-r - 24-5-2006 at 21:36

so who has't got an inflatable

leonardo - 25-5-2006 at 06:40

i've got an inflatable condom

nick-r - 25-5-2006 at 21:54

quote:
Originally posted by leonardo
i've got an inflatable condom
.......

that should be a laff....just as long as your floating on it and not wearing it...

col123 - 24-6-2006 at 07:07

didn't know they made them that small LEO

turbotoad - 17-2-2008 at 17:25

quote:
Originally posted by justal
Check out who owns the land etc. before you do so, as I have a feeling you aren't allowed on a stretch of that water for some reason... I've paddled up from Borth to Derwenlas and back which is where the tidal influence ends. As far as I know you are allowed on tidal waters, athough I know of people who have been shouted at as they passed under the railway bridge by Dovey Junction for some reason...

You could of course all go in camo gear at night just to add to the excitement!

Al.

shem - 17-2-2008 at 17:44

This topic has been in the news a lt recently. Basically the canoests are saying that they should have the rights to use the river as much as the fishermen have. Fair enough Id say, I dont know where the matter stands legaly, but we should deffo do it this summer. I have a mate with a canoe I can borrow.

turbotoad - 17-2-2008 at 18:05

G,day Justal, Refering to your entry regarding kayak trip from Borth to Derwenlas , could you give any advice on the strength of the tides in the estuary. I want to do the trip in the late spring from Aberdovey to Dovey Juntion Railway station, using my Feathercraft folder which packs into a large rucksack and goes on the train

justal - 17-2-2008 at 18:20

It will depend a lot on when you go really... If you time it right you can have the tides help you, and the difference in flow between a big spring tide and a neap tide is huge so that will make a big difference. Also if you are only going one way, upstream, then the amount of rain we have had will make a difference too.

Whenever I've done it I've picked nice calm windless days in the summer and have generally gone upstream on the flow and downstream when the tide is ebbing.

The tides can be really strong, so pick your day carefully.

Al.

turbotoad - 17-2-2008 at 18:47

Thanks for info, will do some more research before I go, regards Brian

justal - 17-2-2008 at 19:11

I'm sure you'll have a good day, it's a really nice little paddle.

Al.

jblade - 18-1-2011 at 13:38

I’m a level 3 kayak coach and paddle with Aberkayakers (and I live in Borth). As a rule we avoid the Dyfi due to the access problems. We regularly paddle the Ystwyth, Rheidol and the Dulas with no complaints. If you need some info just give us a shout.