[Edited on 9/5/07 by mNeil]
anyone at borth this weekend,had a top session at blackrock last weekend hopefully its as good this weekend..
should be at borth i think
[Edited on 9/5/07 by mNeil]
thought Black Rock was closed for the Summer!
Am I wrong? Very close to me
Blackrock very much open for kitesurfers, no land boarding though.
Hey kiteboardingcrazy, that was an epic sesh on monday
could be up for Borth
at weekend, will keep an eye on the weather.
I'm off to Medano again, ye ha!!!!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by crezzee
Blackrock very much open for kitesurfers, no land boarding though.
i'll be up for one day, got a new airush vapor to try..
Ill be on the beach all weekend, actually looks o.k. for teaching for a change, just as well as I have a list as long as my armn to get through!!!!
First time out for me this weekend since the op, so fingers crossed my nose wont explode ! but will be at black rock probably or possibly going to try the beach at pwllheli. There were 2 peeps out on monday and the bay looked perfect for it. Massive flat water bay opening out on to some waves and chop.
Well I have been to Borth for the last two weekends but unfortunatly more work on the house and a business trip will keep me off the
water till the end of the month. See you out there then.
Enjoy
Hi Crezzee & Phil,
cant make saturday as I have got to stay in London friday night but will be up for a session on sunday if the forecast is decent.
yep blackrock defo ok for kitesurfing,as we were kiting back and forth at high speed only 20 feet from the shoreline doing hang five
hand signs to the beach patrol guys((knarly man lol) that were sat watchin us in the patrol car.was a truly awesome day even kited over
to Harlech and back...thanks for top session crezzee
love my new crazy fly board its the nutz!!!
hi to neil and shem and carrot top aka wayne(hope youve not sold my shorty)see you all sat if the wind plays out again
phil...........
you guys should think about coming to round 2 at Barrow In Furness. Aarron Hadlow has just confirmed he is taking part, his first UK
showing in 3 years. We have top speed riders from South Africa and the wind is looking better as the week progresses. I think 60 riders
are now expected. Check it out at www.walneyguide.co.uk or www.nwks.co.uk
quote:
Originally posted by Loxley
but will be at black rock probably or possibly going to try the beach at pwllheli. There were 2 peeps out on monday and the bay looked perfect for it. Massive flat water bay opening out on to some waves and chop.
nothing worse than being at the coast and watchin someone else havin all the fun,rather watch um oin a dvd in the comfort of my own
sofa on non windy days lol
Hey Wayne, Sunday sounds like the best day for me, so might see you there. We gota get dave the pond kiting, he can use my diy chip
fork if he wants.
Should be at Aberdovey Saturday. Potential thunder storms for Sunday, so I think I'll give that a miss.
Fingers crossed for another good session.
Do the tides have a majoe effect on the kiting area at Black Rock ??, I've never kited there before, so not sure what the conditions
are like for sailing launching etc.
Cheers,
Simon
will be over sunday, got monday and tuesday off aswell if anyone is about those 2 days let me know
quote:
Originally posted by Si_B
Do the tides have a majoe effect on the kiting area at Black Rock ??, I've never kited there before, so not sure what the conditions are like for sailing launching etc.
Cheers,
Simon
hey Phil
if you want to see your shorty again you will have to fight every body else on ebay first
Windguru only showing 9-10 knots now? Well ave to wait and see
Is it just me or does most of this year seem to have been piss poor for wind.
Its been 2 months since i got out, finally got some time off from the house and theres no wind again. Still gonna make the trip i
think for the day out.
Fingers crossed Monday has potential.
Are people going to borth?
I'm doing a day trip tomorrow.
What is the sand like? If the wind turns out rubbish for the kiteboard, I think I'll want to do a bit of landboarding.
See people there!
crut
The sand is yellowish brown a consists of small grains of fragmented rocks that gradually break down by the tides of the sea
making(sand)
it is nice to walk in and tickles your toes,not so nice if the a dog turd in it though
Sand is great for building sand castles
hope this answers your question lol
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My god, you are a bunch of pedantic b*stards. I hope the wind is up, I need a kiteboarding fix 
sunday loks better day
Changed again!!! Looks like maybe the estuary if any thing for sunday now! The winds dropped from 25 knots to 9 all ready today!!!!!!!
Yep.... It was gusting to 30knots early this morning... Not much around now though.
Al.
Uurgghhhhh, down to 6 knots!!!! Woz goin on!!
It'll be back in a bit Shem.
Al.
Told you... It's pretty windy out there now...gusting to 26 knots and sunny too!
Al.
Anepic day over dyfi side. I was teaching but the guys learning were spoilt. Noonoo and si b were having as epic sesh as well. Best Ive seen Si ride, I recon the sonic power is working a treat for him!
Oh, and thanks for the 5 minuite loan of ya kite Si, that first big one sorted me out for the day!
No problem, thanks for the tips on carving onto my toeside.
I guess now I've seen someone do a backloop on my kite.....I will have to have a go myself.
Epic session, nearly turned back twice on the way down as the weather was so bad.
Simon
Enjoyed borth today!
Well, until the spar snapped in my venom.
Thinking of picking up another kite, slingshot link or gk sonic, what are peoples thoughts?
Well if you want any second hand links Im selling some now, that people have traded in because they wanted sonics! Hhhmmmm, prob best stick to a sonic, theyre sweet!!!!
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Originally posted by shem
Well if you want any second hand links Im selling some now, that people have traded in because they wanted sonics! Hhhmmmm, prob best stick to a sonic, theyre sweet!!!!
I've owned both....so I guess I could give my opinion.
My link was a good kite, but it had very little low end for a 12m. I'm a fairly big chap and I didn't think it really came alive until
it was blowing 16-18 knots. I could get out on my 8m sonic with a bit of effort in that wind. This was my main reason for getting rid
of it.
I had a few prolems with the bridles wrapping around the kite after a crash, but to be fair the three times it happened, I did manage
to get the kite untangled to get back to the beach. You also have to keep an eye on it if you have it in the zenith (putting your board
on your feet for example). Just like my 12TD, it does have a bit of a habit of nose diving in a lull or over flying you if you lose
tension in the rear lines.
I don't like the who's kites the best debates, but the Sonic is a really easy kite to fly, which in my last two sessions has meant that
I can concentrate on my riding, without worry about what my kite is doing.
Wish I had bought the Sonic last year when I was messing around with my TD's (not including the 16m which is a brilliant kite), then I
might be at the same level as some of the other guys who are now jumping and backlooping.
Cheers,
Simon
I would agree with the comments made by Si, but add that after owning a sonic for over a year now the build quality is not as good as I would have liked. It has had a lot of use though. The new sonics look better though.
Thanks for the heads up.
I think I am going to take the plunge and go for a 11m GK Sonic. From what people have said, the reviews I've read, the 2007 seems to
sort out all the issues people have mentioned.
I ache even today. Cant believe i had the place to myself most of Saturday.
Nice to meet you Shem.
Good to see you again Si.
Found the problem with my 12. leading edge bladder's got a small hole right near the end. Dont know if I can fix it. Real trouble
getting it to lay flat. 9m saved the day though. Any tips anyone.
Never flown a Sonic but I've looked over the 06 and I've seen Si's 07 up close. Would I be right in saying the 07 looks beefed up? To
me it looks like they've really tried to toughen the kite up and make everything a whole lot more durable. I was always surprised at
how light the 06 was. Not that there were any quality issues with it though. Everything was very simple, small and light. In comparison
to me the 07 looks a lot more reinforced. looks sweet in the air. Still nice and nimble.
If you giving out free tips Shem I might have to pick your brains. really
struggling to nail some transitions and rotations. 
beginning to drive me
crazy.
Hope the guys you were teaching went away happy Shem. Looked like they had a good time.
Oh yeah anyone know where I can get a buoyancy aid. Just good sense I think when kiting at Aber. So much water on the move .
[Edited on 14/5/07 by Noo Noo]
quote:
Originally posted by Noo Noo
Never flown a Sonic but I've looked over the 06 and I've seen Si's 07 up close. Would I be right in saying the 07 looks beefed up? To me it looks like they've really tried to toughen the kite up and make everything a whole lot more durable. I was always surprised at how light the 06 was. Not that there were any quality issues with it though. Everything was very simple, small and light. In comparison to me the 07 looks a lot more reinforced. looks sweet in the air. Still nice and nimble.
Yip, the new sonic sure is sweet. I think that what every body needs to remember is that with all new bow or hybrid style kites, every
one that rides them is pushing the kite to massive wind ranges. For example my 11 meter sonic takes me from 10-30 knots. So thats 1
kite for virtually all my kiting, at least 85% any way. Where as 3 years ago I would have had 3 kites do the same job. So of course a
new style kite will wear out a lot quicker as its getting loads more use, 3 times more use pretty much!! So dont expect your 12 meter
bow/hybrid to be looking as good as your same size C kite used to look after a year, cos it aint gonna!
Rant over!! One thing is certain, every body seems to be kiting a lot better and spending a lot less time running back to the beach for
different sized kites now.
quote:
Originally posted by shem
Yip, the new sonic sure is sweet. I think that what every body needs to remember is that with all new bow or hybrid style kites, every one that rides them is pushing the kite to massive wind ranges. For example my 11 meter sonic takes me from 10-30 knots. So thats 1 kite for virtually all my kiting, at least 85% any way. Where as 3 years ago I would have had 3 kites do the same job. So of course a new style kite will wear out a lot quicker as its getting loads more use, 3 times more use pretty much!! So dont expect your 12 meter bow/hybrid to be looking as good as your same size C kite used to look after a year, cos it aint gonna!
Rant over!! One thing is certain, every body seems to be kiting a lot better and spending a lot less time running back to the beach for different sized kites now.
One thing you can't do with a sonic is pack it up in mid air ready to pack away, before you even got off the water.
Sorry Col, but I've never seen I kite fold up like that before. I was amazed you could pump it back up, I thought you had blown
something for sure.
I've got an 06 8m sonic. I don't think they have gone overboard in beefing it up, just added a bit of strength where it was needed. Not
had any problems with mine yet, but I am keeping an eye on the stitching to try and catch anything before it happens. Also, my 8
doesn't come out the bag that often, so that will help.
Cheers,
Simon
quote:
Originally posted by Si_B
One thing you can't do with a sonic is pack it up in mid air ready to pack away, before you even got off the water.
Sorry Col, but I've never seen I kite fold up like that before. I was amazed you could pump it back up, I thought you had blown something for sure.
I've got an 06 8m sonic. I don't think they have gone overboard in beefing it up, just added a bit of strength where it was needed.
Cheers,
Simon
wonderful feelingHe must have had a hell of a run upwind to get back to the beach that quickly !!!. Unless someone else was setting up after we left.
Your OR one's are very similar to the original TD's. My 12 could be a bit twitchy and fold in on itself if the leading edge pressure
had dropped. Once it folded, it was very hard to staighten it out again.
You can have a go on the Sonic next time I see you if you want. You don't appear to be slamming your kites down, so I assume you would
not do it to mine
No free weekends for a while, but that last session should keep me smiling.
Simon
Didn't the OR do it dance in the air after you'd done a front roll?
Wow thanks Si I'll take you up on that offer - gently does it. I dont think I'll be about until first week in June. Might pop down on
the Bank holiday WE to say hello if people are about.
Front Roll - I wish! Working on my back rolls and failing miserably at the moment. Try front rolls after or maybe next time out. Really
loving it at the moment. Those Dyfi lagoons are just great for letting rip and trying whatever pops into your head.
OR's are not renowned for folding / inverting but I do know it happens. Very Flat kites the OR ONE's. Wish I knew what I did to cause
it. Kite was near the edge, moving and powered too. Very strange. Thankfully it appears I got away with it.
You may found it folded due to being out most of the day. Especially with temperature changes during the day, the pressure in your leading edge could have dropped.
I'm riding OR 1's 2006 models and never found them twitchy.. in fact one of the, if no the most stable bow i'v seen. Ask any one whose
watched me ride, plenty of comments about how stable they seem to be. Also never had an issue pulling backloops.
I rode plenty of other bows in the 12 months following their release onto the market and after much deliberation, went for the 06 to
avoid the one pump. To date, never had a bladder problem, and the only time they hindenberg is if there aint enough wind to fly em.
If I could have held on, I'd have deffo gone for the 07 Sonic...but 2 kites for £850 with 2 bar an lines... deal was done.9m is the
sweeeetest thing but the 12 is a little slow on the turn. No comparison to the TD (which I have also riden)
Which model did you get 06 or 07?
I've got 12m and 9m 2006. Extremely stable, solid in the air as you say. Huge range. Very floaty, I've no complaints at all. Tough too
thankfully.
9m Wow, special little kite that one. Saturday was first time out with it.
12m Slow as you say, the bridle mod helps but I still like it.
Not being able to afford new kites I stumbled on these 2nd hand for a good price. So I'm more than happy with OR and have no intentions
of changing for the immediate future. Must admit the new OR RISE looks interesting.
I never really considered the Slingy's. Cant say why but I've since spoken to a few people that weren't 100% with them. It seems Si was
unconvinced too. However there seems to be a lot of praise for the bigger TD's.
Th 9m bowtieing (did I spell that right?) like that was very strange. Cant for the life of me think what happened. Pressure must have
been a little low as Shem says but something else happened too there was a jolt just like a line breaking or something. Aaah well all's
OK just need to get out again
Always liked the look of the Sonics and they will always have a place on the "possibles" list